Mar 2, 2014 11:00pm PST
ungovernable, chiefly because of the budget deficit and now there's a surplus. is there a national leadership lesson that california provide? >> you've got to be tough on spending. at the end of the day, fiscal discipline is the fundamental predicate of a free society. and you just have to maintain that. secondly, you do have to find a way to create a governing consensus or coalition. in california, we do have a majority democratic party. and we don't have the any constitutional blocking points like the 60-vote requirement in the senate or the division of parties in the house between the house and the senate. >> it is interesting, is there a lesson for president obama no matter how liberal you are, you said, here the president's about to present a budget where he's saying look, the deficits are coming down for now. we've got to spend more. we're only going to get the economy going in a meaningful way if we spend more on infrastructure and the loo i can. >> yeah, spend more but in the framework of adjusting your long-term liabilities so we're in balance. so that's not inconsistent.